Preacher–I Don’t Wanna Be Friends With You If…
Now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality (Gk. pornos) or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler–not even to eat with such a one.
–1 Corinthians 5:11 (ESV)–
God Plans to Put You Through Suffering: He Calls You to Gut Wrenching Repentance from Sin – Ray Comfort
The Hell Debate: Annihilationism vs Eternal Conscious Torment – Chris Date vs Joe Schimmel
The same shall drink of the wine of THE WRATH OF GOD, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of HIS INDIGNATION; and he shall be TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT ASCENDETH UP FOR EVER AND EVER: and THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT.
–Revelation 14:10-11 (KJV)–
THE BEAST was taken, and with him THE FALSE PROPHET that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. THESE BOTH WERE CAST ALIVE INTO A LAKE OF FIRE BURNING WITH BRIMSTONE.
–Revelation 19:20 (KJV)–
He laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him A THOUSAND YEARS…And THE DEVIL that deceived them WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, AND SHALL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER.
–Revelation 20:2, 10 (KJV)–
I agree with 100% of what Joe Schimmel argues about eternal punishment in Hell, but I don’t agree that an annihilationist, a person that currently or even stubbornly holds to a Hell-denying view–to the extent that a person might say people in Hell don’t exist anymore–I really can’t say a person like that is born again of the Holy Spirit. I would consider annihilationism a shade of unbelief, almost in the agnosticism category. I mean, people make mistakes all the time, but this is ridiculous. I find it almost impossible that a person could be indwelt by the Holy Spirit of God, and then neglect God’s Word to such an extent, so as not to believe in the eternal punishment of the lake of fire. I find it very, very doubtful that Chris Date is a genuinely regenerated believer in the true Gospel. I think Joe was very charitable, but I really don’t think a person that holds to Chris’ view could ever be in the state of salvation: its the same as rejecting the Gospel, its a tripartisan issue–it doesn’t matter if you’re Catholic, Calvinist, or Wesleyan–eternal punishment is a non-negotiable aspect of saving faith.
The Arminian View of Predestination and Election (Romans 9)
God does not show favoritism.
–Romans 2:11 (NIV)–
I will have mercy on
whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on
whom I have compassion…
the Lord will carry out his sentence
on earth with speed and finality…
The one who trusts in Him
will never be put to shame.
–Romans 9:15, 28, 33 (NIV)–
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The following Wesleyan-holiness denominations would likely accept the books below for an Arminian view of predestination and election: the Wesleyan Church, the Free Methodist Church, the Church of the Nazarene, the Salvation Army, Church of God (Anderson), Church of God (Cleveland), the Bible Methodist Church, the Evangelical Methodist Church, Assemblies of God, and the Pentecostal Holiness Church.
Martin Luther, Commentary on Romans (Kregel, 1982).
Jack W. Cottrell, “The Classical Arminian View,” in Perspectives on Election (B&H, 2006).
Randolph S. Foster, Objections to Calvinism As It Is (Schmul, 1998), chs. 2-3.
John Wesley, Calvinism Calmly Considered, 2 vols (Schmul, 2002).
—. “Free Grace: Against the Favoritistic False Doctrines of Calvinism.”
Adam Clarke, Clarke’s Commentary, 6 vols (Schmul, n.d.).
Richard J. Foster, Celebration of Discipline (HarperCollins, 2018).
Evil Can’t Exist Without Its Opposite – Allie Beth Stuckey with Dr. Frank Turek
Bible-Based Faith vs Agnostic Evidential Apologetics (Hebrews 11)
Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen…Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who seek Him.
–Hebrews 11:1, 6 (ESV)–
Faith cometh by hearing,
and hearing by the Word of God.
–Romans 10:17 (KJV)–
Now…
Frustration turning, turning around
Stomping the feet, moving the ground
All the barriers unbound
Unexplained, it can’t be found
Now…
Motivation comes from beyond
Purity like the unborn
Riding the storms
The storms
Enterfaith
Deeper and deeper in every way
Enterfaith
Penetrates the wound again
Enterfaith
Deep and deeper everyday
Enterfaith
Penetrates the wound again
Now…
It’s not what you see, it’s what you feel
You can not explain, but it’s so real
This is our fate, no one can kill
From birth, this has been sealed
Now…
Forever and ever without an end
Follow your heart, never pretend
The last will be first, it has been said
So I say
Enterfaith
Deeper and deeper in every way
Enterfaith
Penetrates the wound again
Enterfaith
Deep and deeper everyday
Enterfaith
Penetrates the wound again
Faith…On and on
Faith…To carry on
Faith…No transgression
Faith…Is a weapon
Faith is a weapon
–Soulfly, “Enterfaith”–
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Dr. Cornelius Van Til, The Defense of the Faith, 4th ed. (P&R Publishing, 2008).
Dr. Greg Bahnsen, Always Ready (Covenant Media Press, 1996).
Dr. Richard Pratt, Every Thought Captive (P&R Publishing, 1980).
Lee Strobel, Seeing the Supernatural (Zondervan, 2025).
Josh McDowell, The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict (Thomas Nelson, 1999).
John Frame, “Presuppositional Apologetics,” in Five Views… (Zondervan, 2000).
