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Joe Schimmel did an excellent job at presenting the Bible’s teaching of conditional security; and he preached it strongly and urgently. Absolute knock out presentation.

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Taken together, the books below by Corner (over 800 pages) and Shank (400 pages) are possibly the most comprehensive Arminian treatments of conditional security. They respond thoroughly to the popular “once saved, always saved” Bible verses, often used by Baptist pastors to teach that unconditional eternal security is the lived reality of salvation. The concept that a backslidden and relapsed alcoholic, an atheistic, agnostic, drug addict, a porn addicted, wife beating, raping, murdering criminal, a business idolizing, habitually lying, gratuitously cussing gang member, who might also be a homosexual, burglar, child molester, and sex offender involved in satanic ritual abuse will be saved from Hell and definitely go to Heaven, simply because he really believed in Jesus once before in his life and got baptized a long time ago! Yes, there actually are Baptist pastors who believe in this. Take a real close look at what Charles Stanley said about eternal security. Not all of them are like this, but many of them do believe like that. It makes you think twice about attending and tithing to just any Baptist church. They think that holding this belief makes man look humble and that it glorifies the grace and mercy of God. This is the main problem with all of Calvinism when its pulled into one focal point.

Dr. Picirilli from the Free Will Baptist Church, Dr. Arrington from Church of God (Cleveland), and Dr. Purkiser from Church of the Nazarene have also written well on conditional security. The pastors of the following denominations would take sides against the Baptists, especially if they’re conservative rural churches out in the country, and they’re involved in Fall revivals and camp meetings: the Free Will Baptist Church, Church of the Nazarene, the Christian and Missionary Alliance, the Free Methodist Church, the Wesleyan Church, the Pentecostal Holiness Church, Assemblies of God, the Foursquare Church, the Salvation Army, the Southern Methodist Church, the Global Methodist Church, Church of Christ, the Evangelical Methodist Church, Church of God (Holiness), Church of God (Cleveland), the InterChurch Holiness Convention, the Bible Methodist Church, and God’s Missionary Church–these last three are the most fundamentalist and are closely connected with Schmul Publishing and God’s Bible School & College. The only tongues speaking churches above are the IPHC, AG, Foursquare, and COG (Cleveland).

Daniel Corner, The Believer’s Conditional Security (Evangelical Outreach, 1997).

—. The Gospel According to Charles Stanley (Evangelical Outreach, 1995).

Robert Shank, Life in the Son (Bethany House, 1989).

David Anderson, Conditional Security (Schmul, 1985).

Dr. Robert Picirilli, Grace, Faith, Free Will (Randall House, 2002).

Dr. French Arrington, Unconditional Eternal Security: Myth or Truth? (Pathway, 2005).

Dr. W. T. Purkiser, Security: The False and the True (Beacon Hill Press, 1956).

If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in Him will never be disgraced.”
–Romans 10:9-11 (NLT)–

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Martin Luther, Commentary on Romans (Kregel, 1982).

Adam Clarke, Clarke’s Commentary, 6 vols (Schmul, n.d.).

NIV Study Bible (Zondervan, 2020).

Fire Bible: King James Version (Hendrickson, 2014). This used to be called The Full Life Study Bible in the 90s. David Wilkerson said that it “comes at just the right time to strengthen the roots of evangelical Christianity. It is weighty, but most worthwhile to the serious student and lover of God’s Word.”

The same shall drink of the wine of THE WRATH OF GOD, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of HIS INDIGNATION; and he shall be TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT ASCENDETH UP FOR EVER AND EVER: and THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT.
–Revelation 14:10-11 (KJV)–
This teaches that the holy wrath of God against the wicked is what justifies the existence of Hell as a place of torment. Enemies of God burning in fire and sulfur are shown to the seer. Holy angels and the Lord Jesus are shown as watching God’s enemies burn in judicial capital punishment. The only difference between this and burning at the stake on earth: is that the capital punishment of burning alive lasts for ever and ever; and the people are never put out of their misery, they are never allowed to rest in peace. This is not the annihilation nor the extinction of consciousness for the wicked; there is no conditional immortality. The souls in Hell continue to be immortal and self-aware; but they are always in the process of dying, an eternal deathly existence in which, they are suffering from the capital punishment of burning alive again, and again, and again.

The beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone…THE DEVIL that deceived them WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, AND SHALL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER.
–Revelation 19:20; 20:10 (KJV)–
This teaches that the devil and all his demons, will eventually be cast into the lake of fire, to burn alive with all the human beings who rebelled against God. This will happen after the Day of Judgment. The Antichrist and his false prophet, who were men, will burn there too; and their torments will never, ever come to a finishing point. Their capital punishments will continue in the subterranean federal prison of Hell for ever and ever. In Revelation 19:20, the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire, at the beginning of the Millennium when Christ returns. In Revelation 20:10, when Satan is finally thrown into the lake of fire, we see the beast and false prophet still burning alive in the lake of fire, one thousand years later! This clearly teaches that there is no annihilation of the wicked in Hell, but rather an eternal conscious punishment in the lake of fire.

The fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: which is the second death.
–Revelation 21:8 (KJV)–
This teaches that God is just in only sending criminals against the kingdom of God into Hell. He only sends people who are ashamed of the Gospel, people who refuse to trust in God’s Word, haters, murderers, pimps, pornographers, occultists, idol worshipers, and liars into the lake of fire. Not babies, kids, and teenagers; not tribesmen who never got a chance to hear the Gospel; not the mentally handicapped who can’t understand the Bible. God is just and holy in his wrath. He only sends his enemies to Hell. He only sends people to Hell who really, truly deserve eternal damnation. “Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit, who worketh when, and where, and how he pleaseth. So also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word” (Westminster Confession 10.3).

Hell from beneath is moved…at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee…All they shall speak…Art thou also become weak as we?…the worms cover thee…How art thou fallen…Thou shalt be brought down to Hell.
–Isaiah 14:9-12, 15 (KJV)–
This teaches the immortality
of the wicked in Hell.

The sinners in Zion are afraid;
fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites.
Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire?
who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
–Isaiah 33:14 (KJV)–
This teaches eternal punishment in fire
for wicked hypocrites in the Old Testament.

They shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
–Isaiah 66:24 (KJV)–
This teaches that the righteous dead will look upon those in Hell; and see them as living corpses, in zombified bodies, where they are eternally eaten alive by flesh-eating worms, and eternally burned alive in a subterranean crematorium. Jesus believed so much in the literalness of this verse as a vision that describes Hell, that he quoted it three times as a warning when he preached about it (see Mark 9:43-48).

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Doubting the matter of eternal punishment requires either doubting the Word of God or denying its literal, normal interpretation…Scripture never challenges the concept that eternal punishment is by literal fire…As such, it is a spur to preaching the Gospel.
–Dr. John Walvoord–

Woe to the vessel
For it couldn’t compose
The igniting spark

Oh, it shuddered
And collapsed
Beneath the weight of it all
Slowly it is reassembled
As a wound not seen but felt

No sense of presence
Oh, again it shudders
Oh, again it collapsed

The vessel
It wept
And crept behind the door

Echoes dripping down the walls
Crawling underneath the floor

Procession to a grave
Unknown is the one we mourn

An entity lost on its way
To this our physical plane

It was a shadow
Cast from a flame
Indestructible energy that still remains

–Zao, “The Weeping Vessel”–

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Dr. John F. Walvoord, “The Literal View,” in Four Views on Hell (Zondervan, 1996).

Dr. John R. Rice, Hell: What the Bible Says About It (SLP, 1945).

Dr. Robert Peterson, Hell on Trial: The Case for Eternal Punishment (P&R, 1995).

—, ed. Is Hell for Real or Does Everyone Go to Heaven? (Zondervan, 2011).

Bill Wiese, Hell: Separate Truth from Fiction (Charisma House, 2008).

The Burning Hell (The Ormond Organization, 1974).

STRONG.

My brethren, let not many of you become teachers,
knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
–James 3:1 (NKJV)–

Thou shalt not lie with mankind,
as with womankind: it is abomination.
–Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)–

Whosoever shall offend one of these little ones
that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone
were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
–Mark 9:42 (KJV)–